Abdullah ibn abi Sarh

Abdullah ibn abi Sarh, the foster brother of Uthman Affan, was a writer of the Quran.  According to some sources, he left Islam because he was able to influence the revelation with his own words and he doubted Muhammad was receiving revelation from God.  The first source which is the seerah of Ibn Hisham says that he was a companion who apostated and Prophet Muhammad wanted him executed.  However Uthman interceded for him and requested immunity, which was granted.  However according to our sources, Prophet Muhammad still wished that he would have been killed and questioned his companion as to why he didnt kill him. This was also mentioned in Tabaqat al Kabir by Ibn Saad

It was narrated from Mus’ab bin Sa’d that his father said:
“On the day of the Conquest of Makkah, the Messenger of Allah [SAW] granted amnesty to the people, except four men and two women. He said: ‘Kill them, even if you find them clinging to the covers of Ka’bah.’ (They were) ‘Ikrimah bin Abi Jahl, ‘Abdullah bin Khatal, Miqyas bin Subabah and ‘Abdullah bin Sa’d bin Abi As-Sarh. ‘Abdullah bin Khatl was caught while he was clinging to the covers of Ka’bah. Sa’eed bin Huraith and ‘Ammar bin Yasir both rushed toward him, but Sa’eed, who was the younger of the two, got there before ‘Ammar, and he killed him. Miqyas bin Subabah was caught by the people in the marketplace, and they killed him. ‘Ikrimah traveled by sea, and he was caught in a storm. The crew of the ship said: ‘Turn sincerely toward Allah, for your (false) gods cannot help you at all in this situation.’ ‘Ikrimah said: ‘By Allah, if nothing came to save me at sea except sincerity toward Allah then nothing else will save me on land. O Allah, I promise You that if You save me from this predicament I will go to Muhammad [SAW] and put my hand in his, and I am sure that I will find him generous and forgiving.’ So he came, and accepted Islam. ‘Abdullah (bin Sa’d) bin Abi Sarh hid in the house of ‘Uthman bin ‘Affan, and when the Messenger of Allah [SAW] called the people to give their Oath of Allegiance, he brought him, and made him stand before the Prophet [SAW]. He (‘Uthman) said: ‘O Messenger of Allah! Accept the allegiance of ‘Abdullah.’ He raised his head and looked at him three times, refusing his allegiance each time, then he accepted his allegiance after three times.

Then he turned to his Companions and said: ‘Was there not any sensible man among you who would get up when he saw me refusing to give him my hand and kill him?’

They said: ‘We did not know, O Messenger of Allah, what was in your heart. Why did you not gesture to us with your eyes?’ He said: ‘It is not befitting for a Prophet that his eyes be deceitful.'”  (Nasai)

The details as to Abi Sarh saying that he was able to change the words used in the Quran are mentioned in Al-Sira by al-‘Iraqi. The story of Abi Sarh being able to predict the next phrase of the Quran in Al-Baidawi.  I don’t know how authentic these stories are.  However this is very similar to the just in time revelations issue and I would not be surprised if it was true.  At the very least we know that Muhammad wanted him killed because he used to receive revelation and he was a major threat to Islam.

With all due respect, why does the one coming with truth, the perfection of creation need to murder people to spread his message? Does God truly need to murder people in order to protect the authenticity of his message?

 

Read more here: Answering Islam – Abdullah ibn Abi Sarh

Also read Abrogations in the Quran.

 

14 thoughts on “Abdullah ibn abi Sarh

  1. Stop embarrassing your self with this twisting. It looks like you forced yourself to leave Islam and now your twisting things up to feel good about your disbelief because deep down you know you have made a horrible mistake. Stick to something original to look less desperate.

  2. Sure, but now I’m at work with my phone. And I have 4 hours left until I leave work. But let me ask you first, who is Abdullah ibn abi Sarh? Can you give me information about him, like when he was born etc:..

      1. The English wiki you gave me says he was born in 644. While the Arabic one says he was born 23 years before the Islamic calendar. Total fabrication as always.

        1. Ok whatever his date of birth was. These details are not always recorded well in history. The details we do have are from Muslim books. Here’s some more about him

          IslamQA says:

          his name was ‘Abdullah ibn Sa‘d ibn Abi Sarh, Abu Yahya al-Qurashi al-‘Aamiri, the brother through breast feeding of ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) had issued a death warrant against him, but ‘Uthmaan asked for protection for him, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) granted him protection. He became Muslim again and was a good Muslim.

          It was narrated that Sa‘d ibn Abi Waqqaas said: On the day of the conquest of Makkah, the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) granted safety to the people except four people, two women whom he named, and Ibn Abi Sarh. As for Ibn Abi Sarh, he hid with ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan, and when the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) called the people to swear allegiance, ‘Uthmaan brought him and made him stand before the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and said: O Prophet of Allah, accept the allegiance of ‘Abdullah. He raised his head and looked at him three times, each time refusing, then he accepted his oath of allegiance after the third time. Then he turned to his Companions and said: “Was there not among you any intelligent man who, when he saw me not accepting his pledge, would get up and kill him?” They said: O Messenger of Allah, we do not know what is in your mind; why did you not hint to us with (a movement of) your eyes? He said: “It is not appropriate for a Prophet to have treacherous eyes.”

          Narrated by an-Nasaa’i (4067) and Abu Dawood (2683). Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh an-Nasaa’i.

          ‘Uthmaan (may Allah be pleased with him) appointed him as governor of Egypt, and he is the one who led the battle of Dhaat as-Sawaari. He went on campaign in North Africa and conquered many of its cities. He refrained from getting involved in the turmoil between ‘Ali and Mu‘aawiyah (may Allah be pleased with them both), then he went to ar-Ramlah in Palestine. One morning he said: O Allah, let my last deed be Fajr prayer. He did wudoo’, then he prayed; he said the salaam to his right, then when he was going to say the salaam to his left, Allah took his soul.

          That was in 59 AH.

          Imam adh-Dhahabi (may Allah have mercy on him) said concerning him:

          He never harmed anybidy, and he did not do anything that he could be blamed for after the conquest of Makkah. He was one of the wisest and most generous of men.

          End quote from Siyar A‘laam an-Nubala’, 3/34

          See also al-Isti‘aab fi Ma‘rifat al-Ashaab by Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr, 3/52; al-Isaabah fi Tamyeez as-Sahaabah, 4/110

          We have not come across any report with a saheeh (sound) isnaad that says that ‘Abdullah ibn Abi Sarh used to distort the revelation; rather in his story it says that the Shaytaan caused him to slip.

          It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: ‘Abdullh ibn Sa’d ibn Abi’l-Sarh used to write for the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). Then the shaytaan caused him to slip and he joined the kuffaar. The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) ordered that he be killed on the day of the Conquest [of Makkah], but ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan sought protection for him and the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) granted him protection.

          Narrated by an-Nasaa’i (4069) and Abu Dawood (4358); classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh an-Nasaa’i.

      1. Can you summarize why he left Islam and why became Muslim again?
        I know the full story, but I want to hear from your own words.

        1. ibn Abi Sarh apostatized from Islam because he was able to influence Muhammad into re-wording several ayats. he reverted (or “returned” would be the proper Islamic term) back to Islam in order to avoid being executed.

  3. O Allaah cure Abdullah Sameer of ignorance and kufr ditto all his ilks who have lost their way.The objective way to view this issue of Ibn Abi Sarh is to collective all the authentic available historical data and then objectively make honest inferences.Permit me to make the following points and see how they do no support the falsehood of the dishonest Christian missionaries,apologists and prejudicial orientalists:

    1.No authenticity to the claim that he left Islam because “he was able to fabricate Qur’aanic verse endings” as approved by the Prohet-sallallaahu ‘alayhi wasallam.

    2.Even if we accept that fabrication to be authentic for arguments sake,it does not follow that his claim was true and not false as the scribes that write the Qur’aanic revelation as the Prophet-peace be upon him-delivered them were over 40,how come Ibn Sarh is the only one claiming to fabricate verses ending with the approval of Allaah’s Messenger-peace be upon him.

    3.The punishment for apostasy in Islam is death and most scholars hold that the apostate should be given 3 days to review his stance,clarify his doubts,asked to retrace his steps,etc.Though Ibn Sarh crime of treason against his Lord called for his death,’Uthman’s–may Allaah be pleased with both- intercession obviously mean that he is now sincerely repentant and convinced.The Prophet-peace be upon him-in his capacity as God’s Messenger conceded him.

    4.He was so sincere that he did not involve in the political disagreements and turmoil later on but rather went to forefront of Jihaad and died there exactly as he prayed to die.

    Thus,an informed review of the relevant authentic history do not support the lies of the lairs.May Allaah guide us all aright.

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