025 – Interview with Pakistani Exmuslim Christian Stephen

How he left Islam, became Christian, left Pakistan. How he fears for his safety even in China.

YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/sdU3xZ9RO3Y

Timestamps for the podcast:

0:00 How it all started for Stephen? What convinced him to join Christianity?
10:20 The story of Jesus pardoning the adulterous lady – Was it added later into the bible? Are Hudood punishments still applicable in the modern world?
13:30 Stephen’s conversion to Christianity (continued) – being cut off financially by his family, being tricked into coming back to Pakistan by his family.
20:30 Stephen’s father’s attempt to convince Stephen that Islam is true and that he should return to Islam.
23:40 How did Stephen’s mother react to his apostasy?
25:10 Stephen’s experience in Pakistan after he was trapped by his father.
30:47 Is Islam problematic or the Imams’ and scholars’ interpretations of Islam problematic? Can we separate Hadiths and Sunnah from Islam?
37:02 How did Islam spread in Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, and India? The problem of Jihad – Would Muslims be peaceful if they become the majority?
41:30 Treatment of Christians in Pakistan. The importance of secularism and liberalism. China is also infringing on the people’s right to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and expression.
44:30 Differences between Western Muslims and Pakistan Muslims. How western Muslims treat Islam as an identity.
47:50 Stephen’s escape from Pakistan and his father’s continued threats.
50:30 How is life now for Stephen in China?
51:40 Open-minded people are leaving Islam. The cognitive dissonance of educated people who are also religious.
54:34 Final remarks.


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